Brians_Joz Posted August 12, 2017 Posted August 12, 2017 On 8/11/2017 at 12:11 PM, Iso said: @Brians_Joz If one is putting in an order for a custom setup from Brians now, would it be possible to get an Opt1k set or at least some of the new features (thinner profile, material, etc)? Since it is around a 8 week waiting period that almost brings the finished order to the end november if the order is placed now, is it possible? Specs of the OPTIK are exclusive to the line especially until after launch, then I'm sure some specs can be transferred onto other lines. Customizer will come out next month, generally pre-orders begin then but can order anytime, just know the PRODUCTION of OPTIK does not begin until Nov 1 (maybe a little before)
TheGoalNet Posted August 21, 2017 Author Posted August 21, 2017 Hypothetically, I might gotten to see some Optik stuff today. If I had, I would tell you that's pretty impressive.
cwarnar Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 30 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: Hypothetically, I might gotten to see some Optik stuff today. If I had, I would tell you that's pretty impressive.
TheGoalNet Posted August 21, 2017 Author Posted August 21, 2017 I can try... I seriously don't know if I can though... Believe it or not... I will say this... Get excited about glove strapping!!!
TheGoalNet Posted August 22, 2017 Author Posted August 22, 2017 Here's a pic of the face of the Optik on Kasimir Kaskisuo, who is a Leafs' prospect. In green; the outer roll has been greatly minimized on the new pad. If you are wondering why? The outer roll is very similar to the knee roll in that it no longer provides much functionality to the pad. I expect this to become a wider industry trend as OEMs look to reduce weight
bunnyman666 Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 On 8/22/2017 at 11:49 AM, TheGoalNet said: Here's a pic of the face of the Optik on Kasimir Kaskisuo, who is a Leafs' prospect. In green; the outer roll has been greatly minimized on the new pad. If you are wondering why? The outer roll is very similar to the knee roll in that it no longer provides much functionality to the pad. I expect this to become a wider industry trend as OEMs look to reduce weight Ever since pads have become, in essence, blocks of foam with a covering, the outer roll has become vestigial. The outer roll is basically what helped retain the shape of the pad and prevented it from rolling into weird shapes. I am really surprised that the outer roll has remained on modern pads as long as it has, frankly.
Ghostender Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 Vestigial to be sure. On a personal note though, I would hate to see them disappear altogether as they have been such an integral part of the pad “persona” for so long. I can see that in the drive to reduce weight, eliminating them could be a bonus, and agree, with the board-like pads of today they no longer have any structural value, but… Since the move to something other than horsehide and kapok, the pad face has become an “artist’s canvas” and the outer roll has been a special delineation point. It will be interesting to see if the removal of the roll is something people embrace for a cleaner canvas, or if the roll line is too ingrained in goalies to totally remove (a simple pleat or stitch line would probably do the same thing). In my world, this is akin to the first time I saw a set of all white pads (late ‘70s/early ‘80s). My first thought was “that guy’s wearing street hockey pads on the ice!” When I realized they were “for real” my next thought was “that won’t last” - hmmm....
bunnyman666 Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 50 minutes ago, Ghostender said: Vestigial to be sure. On a personal note though, I would hate to see them disappear altogether as they have been such an integral part of the pad “persona” for so long. I can see that in the drive to reduce weight, eliminating them could be a bonus, and agree, with the board-like pads of today they no longer have any structural value, but… Since the move to something other than horsehide and kapok, the pad face has become an “artist’s canvas” and the outer roll has been a special delineation point. It will be interesting to see if the removal of the roll is something people embrace for a cleaner canvas, or if the roll line is too ingrained in goalies to totally remove (a simple pleat or stitch line would probably do the same thing). In my world, this is akin to the first time I saw a set of all white pads (late ‘70s/early ‘80s). My first thought was “that guy’s wearing street hockey pads on the ice!” When I realized they were “for real” my next thought was “that won’t last” - hmmm.... I almost ordered my last pads without the outer block/roll. I may do that for the next set. I have never had that prevent a goal. Glove cheaters do work, but outer rolls? Not that I have noticed... Loved seeing white pads back in the day.
goalie Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 Purpose is to stop pucks rolling over you pad face. Also pretty good arm rests. Besides it would look freaky without them
cwarnar Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 Another set of Optiks... Dell from SJ this time
TheGoalNet Posted August 23, 2017 Author Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, cwarnar said: Another set of Optiks... Dell from SJ this time Dell sets always kill it
bunnyman666 Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, goalie said: Purpose is to stop pucks rolling over you pad face. Also pretty good arm rests. Besides it would look freaky without them I've found if the puck is determined to skip over my pads, it will! I think there is considerable weight to be saved in shedding the outer roll, especially with the pocket made for the foam. I don't disagree about them looking weird without the outer rolls; after all- it took a long time for knee rolls to almost disappear.
TheGoalNet Posted August 23, 2017 Author Posted August 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, bunnyman666 said: I've found if the puck is determined to skip over my pads, it will! I think there is considerable weight to be saved in shedding the outer roll, especially with the pocket made for the foam. I don't disagree about them looking weird without the outer rolls; after all- it took a long time for knee rolls to almost disappear. Look at OD1N & Optik - a minimal outer roll is all that's required now. I believe the skip over concern is probably 1 in 1000 shots. Consumers will be happier with a lighter pad. The trade off of weight savings will out weigh the befit of saving that 1 in 1000 shots
goalie Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, bunnyman666 said: I've found if the puck is determined to skip over my pads, it will! I think there is considerable weight to be saved in shedding the outer roll, especially with the pocket made for the foam. I don't disagree about them looking weird without the outer rolls; after all- it took a long time for knee rolls to almost disappear. I can totally see the merit on making the lightest gloves. But when the companies keep cutting ounces off pads it is getting silly. I got the new CCM Eflex3 with the new straps to make them lighter - what crap. But you are correct taking the V roll off would probably be a pick up on weight reduction.
Ghostender Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, goalie said: ... But when the companies keep cutting ounces off pads it is getting silly. I got the new CCM Eflex3 with the new straps to make them lighter - what crap... Well, the funny part is it's not just a mass reduction but a cost savings to the manufacturer both due to the (slight) reduction of materials (foam in the roll plus the extra material to make the roll), and more so, the the reduced cost to fab the roll and stuff it separately. But.... if the manufacturers follow through, they will market it as (to use the vernacular from back in the day) "new age", "high tech", "state of the art" refinements that will save you soooo much weight, you can't live without it - and up the price it "accordingly"
goalie Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 Remember you heard it here first. How long will it be before someone produces an air inflated pad? ( And no I don't mean Brian Air Pacs )
Ghostender Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, goalie said: Remember you heard it here first. How long will it be before someone produces an air inflated pad? ( And no I don't mean Brian Air Pacs ) The "Trump option"?
SaveByRichter35 Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 I am totally fine with the reduction of the vertical rolls ala Optic and 1S/X but I wouldn't wanna see them totally removed.
goalie Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 49 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: I am totally fine with the reduction of the vertical rolls ala Optic and 1S/X but I wouldn't wanna see them totally removed. Didn't the old Brian's DX have a downsized roll?
SaveByRichter35 Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, goalie said: Didn't the old Brian's DX have a downsized roll? No idea, I have never worn a Brian's pad.
goalie Posted August 24, 2017 Posted August 24, 2017 15 hours ago, SaveByRichter35 said: No idea, I have never worn a Brian's pad. It was a general question,. I should not have quoted you.
cwarnar Posted August 24, 2017 Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, goalie said: It was a general question,. I should not have quoted you. Triangular Roll
cwarnar Posted August 25, 2017 Posted August 25, 2017 Brians keeping up the Optik line teasing/building excitement... good pic of the "BOA" system for their gloves. Pic from Facebook/Instagram
TheGoalNet Posted August 25, 2017 Author Posted August 25, 2017 Here's a look at Matt O'Connor's pads. This pad is built with the stiffer core option... more details to come!
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