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And let's talk about that large white jenpro piece on the back of the skate. Toe tie?

I think Scrivens cranked down on his because he wanted the pad to sit a couple inches above the top of his boot. I wear mine snug. I can pull on the strap when it’s on and there will be about an inch of play between my leg and the back of the strap.

Just curious, do you wear a long sleeve or short sleeve shirt underneath your c/a? And if a long sleeve, are the wrists snug? I have noticed I lose grip a lot faster when I wear a loose long sleeve. I don’t wear wrist bands, though. Sounds like there may be a market for a Sham wrist band to go along with the sweatband

Clearly, I remember less from high school physics than you!

You've also got a (few) layer(s) of padding between the D30 and the user. Every application I've seen of D30 is where it's used as a support layer closest to point of impact, with some layering of other materials before it contacts the athlete.

Not an apples to apples comparison here. The Aegis uses a very thin sheet (1/8"?) cut into multiple segments so there are some gaps in coverage. The EcoPro, Roughneck, and Maltese use 1/4" HD plus 1/4" LD foam layered on one another. The collar and clav pad are flush so there are no gaps in padding. Besides their use in hockey gear for impact protection, there is little similarity between the two materials. D30 is a plastic based material while Poron is a closed cell foam. Not downtalking D30 here, I think it's a fantastic material when used correctly...but the force of a falling wrench at 9.8 meters per second (gravity on earth; roughly 22mph) is not the same as a puck shot at 60-70 mph.

The breaks correspond with line releases. CCM 580 is a 90 degree break. The last glove this was on as a stock option was the Koho 580. CCM 590 is a 60 degree break. Same thing as above but on the 590. CCM 600 is 75 degree. They probably just followed the designation. If they come out with another break after this it may be the 610

You'll only probably get a couple of inches, but think about it from a top down view of the goalie - Think of the natural widest flare you can get with the toe ties snug to the pad, and then push the toe of the pad forward an inch and a half or two inches off that baseline. Factoring in the angle of the boot break, you might be able to get a couple inches per side from the puck perspective. Typical bungee cord attachments keep the toe snug to the toe at all times, which is great for reducing tension in the hip, knee, and ankle, but doesn't have the same performance benefits as slack at the toe.

I ordered a pair of these to try, and I'm liking your positive response so far. I feel like a bit of slack at the toe lets the pad kick forward a couple degrees for a slightly wider flare. I also want my pads to slightly tilt inwards in my stance, and the shock cord solutions on the market right now don't allow for that.

Seriously though, how ahead of its time were these? Flat face, square vertical roll, no knee rolls. I’m not super familiar with fear from this era, but I’d love to see the back of the pad. Im sure there’s some more stuff you’d find on modern gear.

Designed by Ray Charles

See a couple posts above yours maybe it’s the look I’m going for? Orange jerseys, gold and blue pads, upside down logos

Thanks! Graphic is semi-custom. It’s what McElhinney had when he demoed a set last summer in Toronto. Rob at CustomGoalieOutlet has two “stock” graphics that are exclusive to him. Hopefully that makes sense. I’m on two teams. One wears the blue Edmonton jerseys, and the other is a Philly orange. Yes, it looks as bad as you are thinking..lol edit: before anyone asks, no I’m not an LA Rams fan. I realized the colors were the same when the game was on a couple weeks ago

Hot off the factory floor...and on their way to me...

Was just gonna say the same. I think that's right around retail shop employee cost now for offshore gear. LOL

Pretty sure Fusion was the company that was contracted to do Jerry Wright's 960/961s. Pretty old design, but still good.

Not sure about the skin on the 2S. What you can try is taking a small thin sheet of jenpro/padskinz and sliding it inside the cut. Apply Shoe Goo on top of the jenpro, then tape the cut shut to help everything dry in place.

I'd like to see what manufacturers are doing with the arms moving forward, as that seems the biggest point of complaint for goalies in the league. Part of me wonders why players can't get a reduction in shinpads as well - if anyone has seen new ones, they are pretty damn beefy. I'm also wondering if the stitched down portion of the arm is the culprit, I've highlighted that zone in blue. It seems like this is a dead zone for padding, and am wondering if manufacturers could cushion that point on the inside.

To tack on to @BadAngle41‘s post about hip issues and blade height... Many of us after Midget/Junior typically settle into a sedentary lifestyle with school or work. Talk to any health professional and they will agree on one thing - sitting for long periods of time is awful for your joints, in particular your hip mobility. Combine that with increasing social/family/other obligations and you have a compounding issue with body maintenance for IMO one of the most demanding positions in sports. If anything, my stretching routine is sporadic when it should be daily, given the amount of flexibility I’ve lost due to small injuries, wear and tear, and general use. The guys coming up these days have access to much more specialized training than I did 20 years ago. I remember one of the first “training camps” I did for Junior, the first “goalie conditioning drill” was to do high speed lunges with my gear on goal line to goal line (if you played around the mid to late 90s you know what I’m talking about). You never see this kind of work anymore being done with goalies because it’s a sure fire way to blow out a hip, knee, or groin.

@SaveByRichter35 @BadAngle41 @TheGoalNet and yours truly. Thanks for the kind words!

First of all, like glove breaks and stick patterns, there is no single “best profile.” It depends on what you want and how you play. Personally I am on a 27/30’ dual radius with aggressive forward pitch. I wanted a profile to put me on the balls of my feet and a shorter front radius for easy pivots and agility. I use a longer 30’ back radius for stability on my backside recoveries (or pushes while down). Some goalies like flat, some old models came with 120’. Most these days run between 30’ and 50’. There honestly is no real good way for you to evaluate the radius on your steel. You could have a 34’ on your left skate and a 26’ on your right. Who knows. My suggestion is to go on NoIcingSports.com, read everything and get a customer form to fill out. Bob makes it super easy and gives you a free re-do if you don’t like the first profile.

One thing I want to point out is that these pro used chest and arm units generally go a full season, sometimes two, before replacement. Given the caliber and volume of shots they take, amount of sweat, and general use and abuse from being shoved in a bag for several hours at a time on road trips...you are bound to get a broken down unit at the end of its lifecycle. There is one Kenesky Craig Anderson pro return unit in the hands of a member, it was linked in the post above mine. And while we are on the subject of these new, slimmed down units being "dangerous," here is a Bauer prototype that showed up on my Facebook feed. Those arm floaters are appalling!

It says clearly on the heartguard... Bauer Pro. “Ultra” designation was a beef up package through specified retailers

The ECO Foam is at the same price point as the Maltese and most other repad kits on the market. IMO the ECO pieces are better designed (look at the forehead and backplate pieces). It’s softer and lighter.

Nice! Thinking about it, that collar has been around for longer than Warrior has been making goalie gear!