coopaloop1234 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Molitygri said: Which one? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey34 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 hours ago, Molitygri said: Which one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froese Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) InGoal video on the customizer and some other info re: the new gear. https://youtu.be/5fUaNWfxi5Q?si=DmXMlzMnRq0jnRCV Edited April 13 by froese 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmedic6 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 16 hours ago, Molitygri said: Which one? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creasecollector Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 19 hours ago, Molitygri said: Which one? the 2nd one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravitas Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 14 hours ago, froese said: InGoal video on the customizer and some other info re: the new gear. https://youtu.be/5fUaNWfxi5Q?si=DmXMlzMnRq0jnRCV Per the video: Cam mentions at 5:26 the new default is jenpro instead of speedskin - not sure if that applies to all stock retail sets? I think @ThatCarGuymight have pointed this out a couple months ago? They also mention that CCM claims weave is worse on fresh ice. They also mention that the change in materials and design -> increased sliding -> 24% improvement in sliding on clean ice and 37% improvement on rough ice. How much of that is due to materials (reversion of speedskin to jenpro ) and how much to design? 21 hours ago, Molitygri said: Which one? Jumping on the #2 bandwagon!! I submitted the following set this morning - minor tweaks to previous set I had posted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedX Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/13/2024 at 3:45 PM, ZeroGravitas said: Per the video: Cam mentions at 5:26 the new default is jenpro instead of speedskin - not sure if that applies to all stock retail sets? I think @ThatCarGuymight have pointed this out a couple months ago? They also mention that CCM claims weave is worse on fresh ice. They also mention that the change in materials and design -> increased sliding -> 24% improvement in sliding on clean ice and 37% improvement on rough ice. How much of that is due to materials (reversion of speedskin to jenpro ) and how much to design? Jumping on the #2 bandwagon!! I submitted the following set this morning - minor tweaks to previous set I had posted. I gotta say this one is amusing. CCM has done the testing and the science proves that solid Jenpro is the best for sliding. Yet for the last couple of years consumers have said that that Speedskin actually made sliding worse and CCM insisted that we were all wrong and that is superior. And now, CCM coming with this science approach as if it’s their new discovery. So much so that you can’t actually get Speedskin on your sliding surface at all anymore. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froese Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, RedX said: I gotta say this one is amusing. CCM has done the testing and the science proves that solid Jenpro is the best for sliding. Yet for the last couple of years consumers have said that that Speedskin actually made sliding worse and CCM insisted that we were all wrong and that is superior. And now, CCM coming with this science approach as if it’s their new discovery. So much so that you can’t actually get Speedskin on your sliding surface at all anymore. It really is kind of amusing. Although to The Hockey Shop's credit, I called once and spoke with Cam and asked about speedskin and he was pretty open about how bad it was and that no one really liked it. CCM obviously knew that too, but I get that they couldn't openly say that. They screwed up. Just like True and their Fastglide. What I don't understand is how either of those companies ever thought those products/materials should be used. Bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toobs Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, froese said: It really is kind of amusing. Although to The Hockey Shop's credit, I called once and spoke with Cam and asked about speedskin and he was pretty open about how bad it was and that no one really liked it. CCM obviously knew that too, but I get that they couldn't openly say that. They screwed up. Just like True and their Fastglide. What I don't understand is how either of those companies ever thought those products/materials should be used. Bizarre. I can’t believe true or CCM haven’t come up with an equivalent for primo/quickslide yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froese Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Toobs said: I can’t believe true or CCM haven’t come up with an equivalent for primo/quickslide yet Yes it's kinda baffling. Or at the very least not create something that's worse than default jenpro or weave, which I actually think are adequate when combined with a pad that's designed to use it well. So I'm glad that CCM has appeared to at least partially begun to dig themselves out of the hole they were in with speedskin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 11 hours ago, froese said: Yes it's kinda baffling. Or at the very least not create something that's worse than default jenpro or weave, which I actually think are adequate when combined with a pad that's designed to use it well. So I'm glad that CCM has appeared to at least partially begun to dig themselves out of the hole they were in with speedskin. My Axis 2 are jenpro and speedskin in the sliding surface....to me, they were sliding like most ccm pads so it's not a total surprise but this news is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmedic6 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 For those interested, the qmss2 is adjustable internally now as well. Instead of being sewn in like the axis 2 and ef6, it velcros to the internal calf strap and can be adjusted internally and externally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 14 hours ago, Madmedic6 said: For those interested, the qmss2 is adjustable internally now as well. Instead of being sewn in like the axis 2 and ef6, it velcros to the internal calf strap and can be adjusted internally and externally. Ya, about fkn time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I'm in the All Out customizer and believe that some specs are missing in the glove, and blocker. For example I can't even hit the type of glove I want, pro, game ready etc....some specs for the blocker are missing as well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmedic6 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 53 minutes ago, mr_shifty1982 said: I'm in the All Out customizer and believe that some specs are missing in the glove, and blocker. For example I can't even hit the type of glove I want, pro, game ready etc....some specs for the blocker are missing as well.... The all out customizer isn't even available to the public at the moment. But if you're in the total custom then there will be less options for spec... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmedic6 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Hopefully these turn out as good as my 12.2's did. It's going to be weird going to a pad without weave on it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 29 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said: The all out customizer isn't even available to the public at the moment. But if you're in the total custom then there will be less options for spec... Ohhhhhh wtf, they just teased us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 28 minutes ago, Madmedic6 said: Hopefully these turn out as good as my 12.2's did. It's going to be weird going to a pad without weave on it.... Reminds me of the Caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravitas Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 23 minutes ago, mr_shifty1982 said: Ohhhhhh wtf, they just teased us? What specs are you looking for? Total Custom Pro should have all the specs available - more than the Total Custom option. All Out is the custom graphics option which includes TCP options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 3 hours ago, ZeroGravitas said: What specs are you looking for? Total Custom Pro should have all the specs available - more than the Total Custom option. All Out is the custom graphics option which includes TCP options. I don't want graphics, just all the specs, that would be Total Custom Pro? In the options I can't pick the type of glove I want even. EDIT: nevermind, all good now lol Edited April 19 by mr_shifty1982 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 15 minutes ago, mr_shifty1982 said: I don't want graphics, just all the specs, that would be Total Custom Pro? In the options I can't pick the type of glove I want even. EDIT: nevermind, all good now lol C'mon now, you know you want the graphics. Go big and let us marvel in your new toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 13 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: C'mon now, you know you want the graphics. Go big and let us marvel in your new toys. If I had extra cash lying around I'd get one for you with the Fisher Price logo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 29 minutes ago, mr_shifty1982 said: If I had extra cash lying around I'd get one for you with the Fisher Price logo Please, I'm in Bauer mostly now. Though I do like my Tonka Toys. Edited April 19 by coopaloop1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_shifty1982 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 8 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: Please, I'm in Bauer mostly now. Though I do like my Tonka Toys. Wait, you can actually move in them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Lifted from the InGoalMag review on CCM Axis XF. Emphasis mine. Quote The new AXIS XF pad maintains the DRS Pro knee stack and one-piece inner landing area from AXIS 2, which helps get the pad to the ice faster and improves butterfly stability, but CCM has gotten rid of Speed Skin as an option on the inner edge and Speed Channel after extensive material and pad testing showed better sliding on their solid material. CCM’s testing showed the Solid material performed 24 percent better than Speed Skin with the new Speed Channel on clean ice at the start of a game, and 39 percent better midway through a game after the ice had broken down. Interestingly, emboss material, which some goalies love and is still available on custom orders, performed 24 percent better than Speed Skin broken down ice, but was 6 percent worse on clean ice. So, while emboss is still an option, all the testing showed better performance with the Solid material. Source: https://ingoalmag.com/ccm-axis-xf-review/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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