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Some comparables... Weight: As expected... the size 7 Graf/XSG combo comes in at 913g... nearly identical to @mr_shifty1982's custom AS3s w/ 4mm steel (910g.) Holder & Steel Height: Drop

UPDATE: With marriage of boot and holders complete... skates are on their way home... hopefully they arrive as scheduled and maybe I can get them on the ice this coming weekend!!

Shit man I wish you would’ve texted me this question.  I actually don’t have my skates on hand currently.  My skate guy has them. I went and did something...possibly stupid...but something nonetheless

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2 hours ago, jeantodt said:

Toes are still in good shape?


I am worried about that toecap..

But I purchased bladeholders too


It's the same toe cap Graf is using on their latest PeakSpeed Pro G model that is cowlingless... same one they've been using for years. Haven't taken a hit off one yet... but I don't have any concerns.

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10 hours ago, BadAngle41 said:

It's the same toe cap Graf is using on their latest PeakSpeed Pro G model that is cowlingless... same one they've been using for years. Haven't taken a hit off one yet... but I don't have any concerns.

Do you remember taking any off the 2x? I remember 2, and they were some what painful ūü§®ūüė¨

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On 10/15/2020 at 12:39 AM, mr_shifty1982 said:

Do you remember taking any off the 2x? I remember 2, and they were some what painful ūü§®ūüė¨

Pretty sure I took a couple off the toe with not only 2X Pro but S190 as well... don't recall ever being painful by any means. Certainly felt different from having a cowling on. 

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UPDATE: The skates continue to feel good. Enough flex but still stiff... and a more neutral pitch. One thing I wanted to address now is the insoles.

Stock Graf Sidas insoles were leaving something to be desired... so I started searching for something that would keep a neutral pitch yet give me more arch support (I have pretty high arches.) The usual suspects (Bauer, CCM, Superfeet, Elite) all seemed to aim at not only providing more arch support... but also more of a forward pitch... so less than ideal for me. 

In looking at CCM's offering I saw they're made by CURREX who also makes their own insole...


Similar Construction to CCM's "Custom Support Performance Skate Insoles."


Then I came across a brand that while they didn't have a hockey specific offering... they do have something a little different from everyone else... a metatarsal pad. Taken from their site... "Our metatarsal pads offer relief for people experiencing pain or discomfort in the balls of their feet. By supporting the natural spacing of your metatarsal bones you can eliminate pain associated with metatarsalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, Morton's neuroma and other foot-specific ailments." While I haven't been diagnosed with anything... I was getting some pain and even numbness in my 2X Pro skates. Could have been any number of factors. But I thought I had enough Amazon points so I picked up a pair of their ACTIVE THIN WITH MET PAD which they say are "Best for skates, ski boots, flats, skate shoes, dress shoes and other tight-fitting or slim footwear."



Once I received them I heat molded them per their instructions, and wore them last night. They definitely felt better than the stock insoles. Arch felt much more supported and the met pad was noticeable but not intrusive. That said... and this is more of a difference in boot... but the Graf seems to be more generous in the toe box than 2X Pro and I want it to feel a little tighter. Impressed with these... I just ordered a set of similar same insoles... but with 1.6mm of cushioning... their ACTIVE MEDIUM WITH MET PAD. Help take up lightly more volume for me.



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