coopaloop1234 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/27/2021 at 4:02 PM, raidersgoalie said: Having the bungie cord as a toe tie ,do u think it would put more tension on the knees. Mcl, acl. With a skate lace style theres not that consistent pressure or tension on the knee ligaments. Hurt my knee last week. Not sure if this could have been a contributing factor. I have only used skate lace toe ties Pryor to this. Really depends on how loose your skate toe ties are. If you're wearing them with multiple knots, having bungee will provide a tighter feel. I used to wear my skate toe ties fairly tight, so the transition to Pro laces felt looser. One thing to note, lace toe ties eventually have a point where they're fully taught and could potentially cause even more issues with your knees. (ex in a large scramble). A benefit of bungees is that their maximum give will be much larger than traditional skate lace and you could save yourself from some even further damage because of their added flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: Really depends on how loose your skate toe ties are. If you're wearing them with multiple knots, having bungee will provide a tighter feel. I used to wear my skate toe ties fairly tight, so the transition to Pro laces felt looser. One thing to note, lace toe ties eventually have a point where they're fully taught and could potentially cause even more issues with your knees. (ex in a large scramble). A benefit of bungees is that their maximum give will be much larger than traditional skate lace and you could save yourself from some even further damage because of their added flexibility. Right If you've got 3" of slack with regular skate lace, you may not see much of a difference. IMO where you'll see the biggest difference is if you RVH with the toe box in. With elastic lace, when you load your toe box into the post to bump off, your skate will keep going until the cord is fully taught. With skate lace, you'll go until you have no more slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I could not imagine going back to skate lace after having Pro Laces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, SaveByRichter35 said: I could not imagine going back to skate lace after having Pro Laces. Personally I’ve been loving skate lace after using prolaces. I use 2 or 3 inches of slack and post integration is a million times better with laces than bungee toe ties. Seal and rotation are still spot on for the pad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 15 hours ago, ThatCarGuy said: Personally I’ve been loving skate lace after using prolaces. I use 2 or 3 inches of slack and post integration is a million times better with laces than bungee toe ties. Seal and rotation are still spot on for the pad Bonesy, the EBUG for the Preds on Youtube has crazy slack on his lace toe ties. I get the post integration thing, which is why I prefer the Trav model better than the original and I'm assuming the TGN gives ample slack or stretch as well for said purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, RichMan said: Bonesy, the EBUG for the Preds on Youtube has crazy slack on his lace toe ties. I get the post integration thing, which is why I prefer the Trav model better than the original and I'm assuming the TGN gives ample slack or stretch as well for said purpose. I've used both TGN spec and Armor Hybrid models and the issue I always had was I couldn't push hard out of RVH to the top of the crease. That issue was resolved with skate lace. I don't use near the amount slack that Bones does but it's definitely a good bit of lace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ThatCarGuy said: I've used both TGN spec and Armor Hybrid models and the issue I always had was I couldn't push hard out of RVH to the top of the crease. That issue was resolved with skate lace. I don't use near the amount slack that Bones does but it's definitely a good bit of lace. Do you have troubles with the pads not rotating back into place facing forward when you return to your feet with that much slack in the skate lace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, seagoal said: Do you have troubles with the pads not rotating back into place facing forward when you return to your feet with that much slack in the skate lace? Surprisingly I haven't had any issues at all with rotating back to center. Part of it could be to do with the fact my EF5s still have a little bit of a boot channel and maybe the super tight fit helps too? Either way no problems have been had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just now, ThatCarGuy said: Surprisingly I haven't had any issues at all with rotating back to center. Part of it could be to do with the fact my EF5s still have a little bit of a boot channel and maybe the super tight fit helps too? Either way no problems have been had. Are you using a boot strap tightly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 1 minute ago, seagoal said: Are you using a boot strap tightly? I have no boot strap at all and knee elastic down to the super tight fit wrap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Just now, ThatCarGuy said: I have no boot strap at all and knee elastic down to the super tight fit wrap. That's interesting. Seems like they should be getting stuck on the sides of your legs returning to your feet, but good for you that they are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 41 minutes ago, seagoal said: That's interesting. Seems like they should be getting stuck on the sides of your legs returning to your feet, but good for you that they are not. That was my biggest worry with skate lace but it has definitely been odd to see these pads center every single time with laces especially with as much slack as I have. I'll get a couple pictures later for reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, ThatCarGuy said: I've used both TGN spec and Armor Hybrid models and the issue I always had was I couldn't push hard out of RVH to the top of the crease. That issue was resolved with skate lace. I don't use near the amount slack that Bones does but it's definitely a good bit of lace. Are you pushing off the post with your pad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL42 Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 4 hours ago, ThatCarGuy said: ...I couldn't push hard out of RVH to the top of the crease. ..... u have to look to the top of the crease and shift lean the upper body. go to travoilers video with pasco valana, like 2nd or 3rd video , pasco explains the body goes where the head lead, there are some other videos on youtube by pasco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, DL42 said: u have to look to the top of the crease and shift lean the upper body. go to travoilers video with pasco valana, like 2nd or 3rd video , pasco explains the body goes where the head lead, there are some other videos on youtube by pasco I’m not exactly new to this position. I know how to push off the post but since I do pad on post, having the pad stretch away from the post causes a lot of power loss vs having skate lace. 11 hours ago, RichMan said: Are you pushing off the post with your pad? Yup because I use the toe box on the post rather than skate blade. Damn true two piece skates are actually tall enough that a puck can go under no problem with blade on post. As promised here’s some pictures Edited September 30, 2021 by ThatCarGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 hours ago, ThatCarGuy said: I’m not exactly new to this position. I know how to push off the post but since I do pad on post, having the pad stretch away from the post causes a lot of power loss vs having skate lace. Yup because I use the toe box on the post rather than skate blade. Damn true two piece skates are actually tall enough that a puck can go under no problem with blade on post. As promised here’s some pictures That's definitely a lot of slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 4 hours ago, RichMan said: That's definitely a lot of slack. It's definitely way more slack than I thought would be visible but by some miracle my pads still recenter every single time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyGrips13 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 It's weird that such a great innovation like elastic toe-ties would become less desired so quickly because of the effect they have on the movement out of the RVH. I can't say I've noticed a negative effect of the Prolaces on my RVH movement. However, I may not use it as aggressively as others on here. I couldn't imagine going back to regular toe-ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, WillyGrips13 said: It's weird that such a great innovation like elastic toe-ties would become less desired so quickly because of the effect they have on the movement out of the RVH. I can't say I've noticed a negative effect of the Prolaces on my RVH movement. However, I may not use it as aggressively as others on here. I couldn't imagine going back to regular toe-ties. I guess despite using eflex pads I'm not exactly used to a leg pad that moves with me and consistently recenters. Before EF5 I had some 2S Pros with hybrid prolaces and even those had trouble centering surprisingly. Something about EF5 is magical that causes it to always recenter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyGrips13 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 56 minutes ago, ThatCarGuy said: I guess despite using eflex pads I'm not exactly used to a leg pad that moves with me and consistently recenters. Before EF5 I had some 2S Pros with hybrid prolaces and even those had trouble centering surprisingly. Something about EF5 is magical that causes it to always recenter. The elastic toe-ties are also good for easing strain on hips and ankles. This may be more noticeable to someone older and less flexible. Easier to put on, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 11:42 AM, ThatCarGuy said: It's definitely way more slack than I thought would be visible but by some miracle my pads still recenter every single time. Lankinen's got a lot too. So does Price And Fucale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabus33 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Anyone know what's up with prolaces rn? Tried to go to their site and its no longer active. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Urabus33 said: Anyone know what's up with prolaces rn? Tried to go to their site and its no longer active. Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urabus33 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: Works for me. Strange, I tried 2 separate browsers and can't get it to work. ow it seems to work on my phone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, Urabus33 said: Strange, I tried 2 separate browsers and can't get it to work. ow it seems to work on my phone though. Just FYI, being able to purchase Prolaces means you have to be accepted into a super secret special club. If you can't access the site it's because you're not in the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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