TheGoalNet Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, Doobiesnax said: Can we rename this thread to "Lets all get super defensive about skates"? This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 minute ago, TheGoalNet said: Hills - I love the dialog today, but I think you might be diving a bit deep into my word choice, haha. I love how precisely you read my posts!!! When I say develop, "applied to hockey" or "developed a skate around Curv" might be better statements. They started using Curv and/or Alive 10ish years ago. . . It would almost feel like it's time for something new? Do they own any patents from Easton Synergy skates or MLX / Mako that could be utilized to take Curv to the next level . . . Easton’s exit from hockey is saddening. I hope that Bauer does not shelf either the skate or stick tech. That being said- True reminds me of how Easton got into hockey (as I have mentioned), with even similar origins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I’m shocked Scott Van Horne was allowed to start another hockey skate company after MLX so quickly. Seems like Easton should have had a longer non compete anyone know the story there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said: I’m shocked Scott Van Horne was allowed to start another hockey skate company after MLX so quickly. Seems like Easton should have had a longer non compete anyone know the story there? I am guessing that his tech with speedskates pre-dates MLX by a long way. My old skating coach had a pair of speed skates that were constucted similarly to the VH speed skate and they were built in the late ‘90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 @bunnyman666 - sure, but I’m sure Easton could have said no hockey products for 36 mo or we don’t but MLX. He could have done speed skates and not hockey in that period. It seems like the non compete was only 12-ish months? @Hills @IPv6Freely - any insight as customers or from Mod Squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I hear that Micron is making a comeback and will blow everyone else into oblivion @bunnyman666 I thought you were going to reference Bont cycling shoes which are just gorgeous. Hoping to get some Riots this coming season. If weight isn't an issue and you want ample toe room and price isn't a problem, True is a good fit. If you want similar at a lower cost, I'm guessing Graf would be good. If weight is a selling point and your feet don't need special custom attention, then anything else out there on the shelves could answer your needs. For myself, going from '80s Bauer Supremes to Bauer One80s to now Bauer 700X, my only struggle is adjusting to the difference in height of the skate/runner. Maybe it's just my anatomy or lack of hip flex or my knees getting older, I feel strain in my ankle/knees/hips. I like the attack angle but wouldn't mind a little less height off the ice, especially in b-fly recovery mode. On skate models...has anyone tried or even played in Graf 1030s? Any feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayen Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Going to be trialling out Reebok 16K's. Already can tell they fit better than my Vapor X900's but i'm concerned about the cowling height, and weight. If I were to stay with this boot, what cowlings have the best attack angle ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 Regular Step steel gives the Reebok Cowling good attack angle. Even though the standard steel on Reebok is heads and shoulders better than ANY standard Bauer (save for their new black steel), you won’t have the height. Step extreme will give better attack angle than regular Step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayen Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 That's one consideration I almost forgot about. I have regular step steel on them, and finding some discounted step steel extremes for these blades likely won't be an issue either. Tonight will be interesting as I have not used 4mm steel since 2012 - and I've become quite avid on 3mm steel. Weight doesn't bother me too much anyways. Thanks man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyuk92 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I've been in a pair of Bauer One80 for a while and they are slowly falling apart on me. I've always wanted to try a pair of Grafs but never had the chance. By the look of it, I like the fact that they seem not as tall and the blade looks shorter which makes me thing they would be more agile. Did any of you have gone from Bauer to Graf and what was your experience like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Picked up a pair of new Graf 750 skates, non-elf toe. I was expecting the suede-ish interior and got black mesh instead which is weird. I haven't decided if I want to get rid of them or not. If I keep them, I might try to do something to shave down the overdrive protrusion on the side of the cowling. Anyone out there still using or into Graf 750 Goalers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, Taco said: Picked up a pair of new Graf 750 skates, non-elf toe. I was expecting the suede-ish interior and got black mesh instead which is weird. I haven't decided if I want to get rid of them or not. If I keep them, I might try to do something to shave down the overdrive protrusion on the side of the cowling. Anyone out there still using or into Graf 750 Goalers? Given that they have the new cowling and the mesh interior, I'd guess they were a more recent custom order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daffy Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 06/02/2018 at 4:12 PM, Taco said: Picked up a pair of new Graf 750 skates, non-elf toe. I was expecting the suede-ish interior and got black mesh instead which is weird. I haven't decided if I want to get rid of them or not. If I keep them, I might try to do something to shave down the overdrive protrusion on the side of the cowling. Anyone out there still using or into Graf 750 Goalers? Yep im still in graf 750s but with Original bauer cowling. Tried newer cowlings, dont like the height. Checked with Graf Canada. They will make me a new pair of 750s in Narrow width. I might go back to them. Anyone see the new graf cowlingless goal skate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, daffy said: Yep im still in graf 750s but with Original bauer cowling. Tried newer cowlings, dont like the height. Checked with Graf Canada. They will make me a new pair of 750s in Narrow width. I might go back to them. Anyone see the new graf cowlingless goal skate? Unless something is new, that’s just a Graf skate without a cowling. Vaughn / Graf claims the skates have always double thick toe caps relative to competition and they’re sufficient for no cowling (queue the @bunnyman666 cringe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daffy Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Well im on team bunnyman and wont go near something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 @daffy - get the new CCM cowling when it comes out this spring. It’s Vertexx Edge style attack angle and a toe cap. It’s a nice middle ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daffy Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Good to know. Ill have a look at it. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I'm seriously wondering if Vaughn understands goalie skates and the need for proper protection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, daffy said: Good to know. Ill have a look at it. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harman Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 3 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: Will it be available as replacement cowling !? It is already the same cowling on thr CCM tacks correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayen Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Harman said: Will it be available as replacement cowling !? It is already the same cowling on thr CCM tacks correct? I believe so. Looks like the same cowling (CCM Prolite Lo Curve) on the CCM Tack Pros, not the 6092 or 4092. I wonder if it's safe to pop one of them on my 16k skates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 58 minutes ago, Kayen said: I believe so. Looks like the same cowling (CCM Prolite Lo Curve) on the CCM Tack Pros, not the 6092 or 4092. I wonder if it's safe to pop one of them on my 16k skates... I would say no, as it looks to be something for a skate with a reinforced sidewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsyuk92 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Anyone got any insight on these beauties? Since they changed the model name I wonder if they're any different from the previous versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Datsyuk92 said: Anyone got any insight on these beauties? Since they changed the model name I wonder if they're any different from the previous versions I've read a few guys thoughts on them in GGSU (for what thats worth...) and they seem to well liked and perform well. I previously used the Goaler Pros and couldn't adjust to their feel or the shorter blade (coming from Bauers). The DM1080 and the AS1 Tack really have me intrigued tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTIMA Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 When you already have VH skates but recently tried on the Vapor 1X and can't get them out of your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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