jeff da goalie Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 1:36 PM, bunnyman666 said: His jock was literally a problem in search of a solution, I will say. For me, his elastic “professor” strap was his beat thing, and it became the worst quality thing he carried. The original stuff was pretty good stuff. I bought one of those. It never worked. The one I got that came with my Passau pads works much better, IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 9:28 AM, jeff da goalie said: meh. he wasn't the first to come up with using elastic based stuff in lieu of skate laces or leather. Brian's smart strapping predates him. All he did was say "hey, I can use "military grade shock cord" and upcharge a lot." And some of his stuff was just flat out stupid, IMO. Agreed - none of his product was truly revolutionary. Even his business model towards the end (take people's money and disappear) is based on the Agatone model. I believe the elastic toe tie originally came from Dave Wilcox, but it only came on one pad in the late phases of the TPS line and was never offered as a standalone accessory. Marketing wise, he's done what other companies have done for ages - sell on a value proposition. "This product will fix problem Y and it's made with the best materials" He was a good hype man, and built a good rep at the beginning for making a lot of obscure products easily accessible. Hate skate lace toe ties? They had them in stock ready to go. Want a knee block with some extra padding? They could make it for you and (supposedly) had every major pad spec on file to make it fit right. Keep falling off the back of your knee block? Here's a strap that'll help with that. IMO his real contribution was showing that there is a place in the goalie market for a specialist in goalie part accessories. Look at all the toe tie guys you find on Facebook nowadays - at least a half dozen have popped up in the last 6 months, all offering toe ties, some offering a bit more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I got confirmation that Bauer has ditched the Monster portion for the HAL straps. They're now Bauer brand only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWall0211 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Jeff took money - a lot of money - and ran away. That’s theft. That’s fraud. How is he not in jail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, TheWall0211 said: Jeff took money - a lot of money - and ran away. That’s theft. That’s fraud. How is he not in jail? There is an ongoing investigation and a class action suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWall0211 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) Good to know Edited August 26, 2019 by TheWall0211 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWall0211 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 hours ago, cwarnar said: There is an ongoing investigation and a class action suit Any civil action is a waste of time. Jeff will just declare bankruptcy and that’s the end of that. What will stick is a criminal probe. I’m sure I’ll never get my money back, so I want to know that guy spends a little time in the poke for what he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser33 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 but how it all began well ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockieboi Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 https://mychesco.com/a/news/attorney-general-announces-lawsuit-against-chester-county-hockey-equipment-supplier/https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/2019-10-29-Monster-Hockey.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 I never, ever dreamt this would be how things turned out two years after starting this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWall0211 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 2:47 PM, hockieboi said: https://mychesco.com/a/news/attorney-general-announces-lawsuit-against-chester-county-hockey-equipment-supplier/https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/2019-10-29-Monster-Hockey.pdf The 20-day reply period for the Laums has passed. Anyone know if they bothered to reply or put up a defense? I still assume they just declare bankruptcy and skate on all of this. I hope I’m wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWall0211 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Of Monster ripped you off, file a complaint with the PA attorney general’s office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuprajake Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 i was using elastic bungee cord 20 yrs ago on my roller pads, dam i wish i had the idea to be a crook, id of been ich, rich i tell you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWall0211 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Anyone know if Jeff and Laura are in jail yet? They still owe me $200. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockieboi Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 The hearing was at the end of Oct. Jeff didn’t show up and did not have anyone representing him or the business. The judge said it was just a matter of mathematics. The injunction was granted to block him from owning a business in Pennsylvania. Hopefully there are lawsuits in other states and Canada. Not that Jeff will ever pay, plus I don’t believe he has any meaningful assets to levy. No one will get a dime back but the more civil suits against him the better because can prevent him from scamming people in the future. Even if he doesn’t formally open a business a simple Google search will be a barrier forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Bringing this back for a product question. If Monster is not in business, where else can i find these type of knee blocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, RichMan said: Bringing this back for a product question. If Monster is not in business, where else can i find these type of knee blocks? http://www.protectiveathleticwear.com/kneestacks.htm P.A.W. seems like they'd be able to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I live in constant fear of this thread resurfacing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyGrips13 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, coopaloop1234 said: http://www.protectiveathleticwear.com/kneestacks.htm P.A.W. seems like they'd be able to. And Sara is about as professional as they come. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman30 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, RichMan said: Bringing this back for a product question. If Monster is not in business, where else can i find these type of knee blocks? https://fixmygear.com/products/45-30-degree-knee-lifts In Newfoundland, and Scott is amazing to work with. Edited March 12, 2021 by Snowman30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyrgoaliefan Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 What ever came of the lawsuit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Nyrgoaliefan said: What ever came of the lawsuit? Nothing, really. https://www.phillyvoice.com/monster-hockey-lawsuit-pennsylvania-sues-pottstown-jeffrey-laum-consumer-protection/?utm_campaign=pv-site&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=news Quote The lawsuit requests a court order for Monster Hockey and Laum to pay restitution to all customers and businesses that lost money. It also seeks that they be permanently banned from doing future business in Pennsylvania or to Pennsylvania residents, as well as pay civil penalties for each violation of the Consumer Protection Law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilyazhito Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 3/11/2021 at 1:39 PM, WillyGrips13 said: And Sara is about as professional as they come. I had a good experience ordering a custom jock from her. Hopefully she will eventually also make good toe ties (or at least have the option to attach elastic toe ties to PAW pads). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraud.detector Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 11:38 AM, Nyrgoaliefan said: What ever came of the lawsuit? On 4/22/2022 at 1:10 PM, Chenner29 said: Nothing, really. https://www.phillyvoice.com/monster-hockey-lawsuit-pennsylvania-sues-pottstown-jeffrey-laum-consumer-protection/?utm_campaign=pv-site&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=news Jeff and Laura didn't even bother showing up to defend themselves against the lawsuit, they sent no representation to court either. Perhaps they realized the emotional manipulations they use to rationalize their fraud wouldn't stand up against actual evidence in a courthouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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