MTH Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 18 hours ago, TitanG said: CCM Gatekeepers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hills Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 These Optik are seriously becoming the top contendors for my Bulldogs red/white/blue set after the new year. Unless CCM really steps up their game with the Premier, I think I'd be happy with the Optik. I wanted to try SLR but I can't get a demo set from Vaughn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Hills said: These Optik are seriously becoming the top contendors for my Bulldogs red/white/blue set after the new year. Unless CCM really steps up their game with the Premier, I think I'd be happy with the Optik. I wanted to try SLR but I can't get a demo set from Vaughn. I think Brian's and Bauer's are pushing the innovation right now Vaughn is conservative, but the SLR seemed like a nice step forward IMO, CCM is falling way behind. They don't have a lot of innovation lately and are playing catch up with strapping, weight, and materials. If they loose Price... I think CCM could drop like a ballon. With that said... I heard Premier is done after P2 because it's been around for 15 years and they need to start fresh. It's either EF4 or the pad after that where they attempt to merge the lines and start fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanG Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, TheGoalNet said: I think Brian's and Bauer's are pushing the innovation right now Vaughn is conservative, but the SLR seemed like a nice step forward IMO, CCM is falling way behind. They don't have a lot of innovation lately and are playing catch up with strapping, weight, and materials. If they loose Price... I think CCM could drop like a ballon. With that said... I heard Premier is done after P2 because it's been around for 15 years and they need to start fresh. It's either EF4 or the pad after that where they attempt to merge the lines and start fresh. What? Luongo, Crawford, and Fleury not enough without him??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, TitanG said: What? Luongo, Crawford, and Fleury not enough without him??? Those three guys combined don't bring in half the business Price does. Price is the golden ticket for advertising right now. Though I seriously doubt the Eflex line will fail without him. There is a decently large sized following of goalies in the show wearing Eflex and we all know how much creatures of habit some goalies can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanG Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Just now, coopaloop1234 said: Those three guys combined don't bring in half the business Price does. Price is the golden ticket for advertising right now. Yep that was my point (my comment was sarcastic). CCM would be in deep trouble for the foreseeable future on the goalie side without Price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: I think Brian's and Bauer's are pushing the innovation right now Vaughn is conservative, but the SLR seemed like a nice step forward Where would you place Warrior? just behind those two giants? It's too bad the marketing for Warrior isn't seen breaking too much ground. I did like how Brians went after the college and junior kids to get them into their pads early so that when they get to the show, it's all they want to use. Look at the increase in Brians pad usage in the NHL now. I don't remember seeing so much before, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 37 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: Where would you place Warrior? just behind those two giants? It's too bad the marketing for Warrior isn't seen breaking too much ground. I did like how Brians went after the college and junior kids to get them into their pads early so that when they get to the show, it's all they want to use. Look at the increase in Brians pad usage in the NHL now. I don't remember seeing so much before, Takes one guy to show others how good the stuff is and if a few convert they do the same and so on so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Tease from Craig Anderson with his new Optiks... full reveal tomorrow after NHL certification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Looking forward to seeing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 18 hours ago, TheGoalNet said: I think Brian's and Bauer's are pushing the innovation right now Vaughn is conservative, but the SLR seemed like a nice step forward IMO, CCM is falling way behind. They don't have a lot of innovation lately and are playing catch up with strapping, weight, and materials. If they loose Price... I think CCM could drop like a ballon. So my oldest is 11. He plays net. He makes fun of Vaughn stuff saying it's ancient. CCM was cool. I think it's lost it's luster with them as they mostly just make all white gear. Brian's has that cool name, sharp logos and nice stuff thing going with the other kid goalies. The Bauer Supreme line is tops for them too. The flat face with the modern print on the front. Only draw is that they make so much beginner stuff that the Mites use. So they have to separate the real stuff (Supreme) from the junk the kids pull out of the rink bin of gear. Anything other than a flat faced pad is a dinosaur to anyone under 20. I don't know where most of the sales for these companies comes from - over/ under 20 year olds? But I know myself, as a dad, I buy way more gear for my kids than I do for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted August 24, 2017 Author Share Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, MTH said: So my oldest is 11. He plays net. He makes fun of Vaughn stuff saying it's ancient. CCM was cool. I think it's lost it's luster with them as they mostly just make all white gear. Brian's has that cool name, sharp logos and nice stuff thing going with the other kid goalies. The Bauer Supreme line is tops for them too. The flat face with the modern print on the front. Only draw is that they make so much beginner stuff that the Mites use. So they have to separate the real stuff (Supreme) from the junk the kids pull out of the rink bin of gear. Anything other than a flat faced pad is a dinosaur to anyone under 20. I don't know where most of the sales for these companies comes from - over/ under 20 year olds? But I know myself, as a dad, I buy way more gear for my kids than I do for myself. I agree with your assessment from an empirical sense. However, everyone I have asked at retail says CCM is top in Sales. I think that's a lot legacy selling off the same. I think your insight on the kids is correct and that if CCM doesn't do something different, they will slowly vanish. The Carey Price factory is a big help to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1C5 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I would have thought Murray would have helped Vaughn more than it has. I guess if he keeps winning it will only help more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Andersen in his Optiks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Robin Lehner made the switch to Brian's as well. Not sure which model tho... strapping pic... via GGN on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big2 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 1 hour ago, 1C5 said: I would have thought Murray would have helped Vaughn more than it has. I guess if he keeps winning it will only help more... 1C5 actually Murray can win all the cups he wants but dealing with Vaughn is hell! Stores dont like ordering through them - high MOQ Lead times - I was seriously looking at their Ventus line Pad combo + CA was quoted 16 weeks No inventory in any stores due to point # 1 Goalies in the NHL can wear all their stuff but if you cant find it at the retail level it will not help them grow! Finally - they are behind the times in most of their lines except Ventus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 A little tease from @Brians_Joz on GGSU of Scott Darling's Optik glove. Apparently Joz has the whole set at his house!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike24 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Can't wait to see the rest of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Also a tease of Lehners Optiks from GGSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp34 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Seems like Brian's is making a push here. Could be a fun season seeing all these new sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp34 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Courtesy from Brian's Instagram. Anderson, Dell and Kaskisuo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, gp34 said: Courtesy from Brian's Instagram. Anderson, Dell and Kaskisuo. Really a great view on how minimal the outside roll on the Optik is... Anyone have any idea on weight for these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Crazy that Vaughn and Bauer gear is pretty close in cost yet the Vaughn designs are way more labor intensive as opposed to screening the graphics on like Bauer. I thought by now Brian's would sell some screened graphic gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 39 minutes ago, MTH said: I thought by now Brian's would sell some screened graphic gear. Oh I'm sure they've already been looking into the technology. It would be dumb for the custom goalie company to not pursue that avenue. Those things also take time. I'm sure they were already in the midst of the R&D for the Optik line being the top priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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