coopaloop1234 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 44 minutes ago, stackem30 said: Perhaps it's indicative of how repetitive his designs are... No way man, every piece is a declaration of artistic ingenuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naz Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: No way man, every piece is a regurgitation Fixed that for ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Ha. THIS ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 This is , I think, the only DaveArt mask I've ever liked and it is probably my favorite NHL mask ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Naz said: Fixed that for ya I wonder how many of these masks are hits with the NHL guys (players and all). Do they all think these designs are rad-tacular? Bodacious? Gnarly? Or do they even really have a huge amount of care as long as some of their ideas are implemented? I'm generally curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackem30 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: I wonder how many of these masks are hits with the NHL guys (players and all). Do they all think these designs are rad-tacular? Bodacious? Gnarly? Or do they even really have a huge amount of care as long as some of their ideas are implemented? I'm generally curious I bet most of them are generally pleased with the masks they receive. Not to paint NHL guys with a wide brush, but they certainly seem to have a ... homogeneous approach to style. Clothes, hair, tattoos, cars, footwear, etc. There are always some individuals that stand out, but most guys seem to follow the same basic trends, and they often end up looking more or less the same. Not a criticism, it makes sense... they're more or less the same age, grew up in the same environments, admired the same people, enjoy similar financial status (ballpark), and tend to go out and socialize with one another. Maybe I'm reaching, but I think you can apply the same notion to masks. "The thing" has been for masks to be (overly) intricate, flashy, and "aggressive", often with a mix of team-oriented visuals peppered with smaller personal references. And you can count on most people to go with "the thing". I think it all boils down to trends. NHL guys are young, and they're not above the (entirely human) tendency to want to fit in and have the same thing everyone else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 51 minutes ago, stackem30 said: I bet most of them are generally pleased with the masks they receive. Not to paint NHL guys with a wide brush, but they certainly seem to have a ... homogeneous approach to style. Clothes, hair, tattoos, cars, footwear, etc. There are always some individuals that stand out, but most guys seem to follow the same basic trends, and they often end up looking more or less the same. Not a criticism, it makes sense... they're more or less the same age, grew up in the same environments, admired the same people, enjoy similar financial status (ballpark), and tend to go out and socialize with one another. Maybe I'm reaching, but I think you can apply the same notion to masks. "The thing" has been for masks to be (overly) intricate, flashy, and "aggressive", often with a mix of team-oriented visuals peppered with smaller personal references. And you can count on most people to go with "the thing". I think it all boils down to trends. NHL guys are young, and they're not above the (entirely human) tendency to want to fit in and have the same thing everyone else does. I was definitely thinking the same train of thought. Though my reasoning was far shorter: "Dude, they're a bunch of Bros." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackem30 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, coopaloop1234 said: I was definitely thinking the same train of thought. Though my reasoning was far shorter: "Dude, they're a bunch of Bros." Believe me, I considered being as succinct as that... I was just wary of sounding condescending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, stackem30 said: Believe me, I considered being as succinct as that... I was just wary of sounding condescending. But isn't half the fun of posting on forums is for the false sense of superiority? Being an armchair-____ is very satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose75 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 What they lack in personality or charisma they make up in hockey talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackem30 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Moose75 said: What they lack in personality or charisma they make up in hockey talent I don't think anyone here would disagree. I think we can point out that there's somewhat of a low bar for style/originality without negating what incredibly talented athletes these guys are. But this forum is 99% minutia (I wouldn't have it any other way) and it's fun to speculate about these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpawtendy48 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, stackem30 said: I don't think anyone here would disagree. I think we can point out that there's somewhat of a low bar for style/originality without negating what incredibly talented athletes these guys are. But this forum is 99% minutia (I wouldn't have it any other way) and it's fun to speculate about these things. I honestly think that masks are a good way to show who you are and what you’re trying to accomplish, I know that sounds a bit cringy but most goalies have failed to do that. Like if you have something in your backplate maybe that counts a little but I just see no personality with most designs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackem30 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, southpawtendy48 said: I honestly think that masks are a good way to show who you are and what you’re trying to accomplish, I know that sounds a bit cringy but most goalies have failed to do that. Like if you have something in your backplate maybe that counts a little but I just see no personality with most designs All my usual DaveArt criticisms aside, I think the guy just has too many clients and too many masks to crank out for any of them to truly be special. And I think the modern approach to painting goalie masks can take some blame (not all -- there are still many talented, tasteful artists out there who turn out good work on a consistent basis). You read stories about how some of the more classic masks were painted, and it seems like so many of them were designed by a family member or a friend, someone the goalie knew personally. And the people who designed/painted them often didn't paint goalie masks for a living -- it might have just been something cool they had the opportunity to do the one time. And they were probably painted in their garage or something like that. The entire process sounds more intimate. Today, you just pop your mask in the mail with some instructions to someone who you'll probably never meet face-to-face. And they have a bunch of masks they have to finish before yours, and a ton after yours. They're trying to churn 'em out. And if you're running a mask-painting business for a living, you might be trying to develop a signature look, something you don't want to stray from too much. All in all, it's slowly transforming into a big 'ole assembly line. Not exactly great for original work that really stands out. That's only a small part of the 'problem'. Design trends share a lot of the blame. A lot of what makes masks so unmemorable are the same bad design elements that make modern movies a mess: there's too much amazing technological capabilities available, and you just end up having a ton of busy, 'wow' shit crammed into a small space. Think of some CGI-filled action sequence with way too much going on compared to a thoughtfully composed shot in a classic film, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpawtendy48 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, stackem30 said: All my usual DaveArt criticisms aside, I think the guy just has too many clients and too many masks to crank out for any of them to truly be special. And I think the modern approach to painting goalie masks can take some blame (not all -- there are still many talented, tasteful artists out there who turn out good work on a consistent basis). You read stories about how some of the more classic masks were painted, and it seems like so many of them were designed by a family member or a friend, someone the goalie knew personally. And the people who designed/painted them often didn't paint goalie masks for a living -- it might have just been something cool they had the opportunity to do the one time. And they were probably painted in their garage or something like that. The entire process sounds more intimate. Today, you just pop your mask in the mail with some instructions to someone who you'll probably never meet face-to-face. And they have a bunch of masks they have to finish before yours, and a ton after yours. They're trying to churn 'em out. And if you're running a mask-painting business for a living, you might be trying to develop a signature look, something you don't want to stray from too much. All in all, it's slowly transforming into a big 'ole assembly line. Not exactly great for original work that really stands out. That's only a small part of the 'problem'. Design trends share a lot of the blame. A lot of what makes masks so unmemorable are the same bad design elements that make modern movies a mess: there's too much amazing technological capabilities available, and you just end up having a ton of busy, 'wow' shit crammed into a small space. Think of some CGI-filled action sequence with way too much going on compared to a thoughtfully composed shot in a classic film, etc. Completely agree with all of that. He’s an extremely talented guy there’s just a lot of demand for trendy masks and him probably being the most popular mask painter right now that’s to be expected from people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp34 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 WOW!!! Good job for Coveted!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike24 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Very cool. About Subban and Coveted. And @stackem30 you nailed it. There are no classics anymore. A product of the disposable world we live in. It’s just “onto the next”.... nothing has soul anymore. It’s just a short shelf life. The classics Roy, Broduer, Richter, Beezer, Belfour.etc are gone. Classic designs have been swapped for the flavor of the every couple months. Sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Amazing sets for 2 amazing goalies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, cwarnar said: Amazing sets for 2 amazing goalies... And good looking, as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose75 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mike24 said: Very cool. About Subban and Coveted. And @stackem30 you nailed it. There are no classics anymore. A product of the disposable world we live in. It’s just “onto the next”.... nothing has soul anymore. It’s just a short shelf life. The classics Roy, Broduer, Richter, Beezer, Belfour.etc are gone. Classic designs have been swapped for the flavor of the every couple months. Sad Quick and Rask never change their masks. I'd say the Quick Knight helmet has become pretty iconic. I see it copied all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike24 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 There are exceptions out there. And you are correct. But for the most part it’s everchanging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeperton Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, cwarnar said: Amazing sets for 2 amazing goalies... Here's a link to Shannon's mask. Would love to see some more NWHL sitings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 hours ago, netminder said: Not NHL sightings, doesn't belong in this thread Hey- I did not post the pix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 5 hours ago, keeperton said: Here's a link to Shannon's mask. Would love to see some more NWHL sitings. Me too!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackem30 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 8 hours ago, netminder said: Not NHL sightings, doesn't belong in this thread Sitings**** Been checking out this thread for ~10 years, and it never sticks to the NHL. There are always pics of KHL, NCAA, and junior-league guys. I'm just happy that other people take the time to post new gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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