Ultra Sonic - Bauer Supreme 2020 Line

[Telfo]

58 minutes ago, Puckstopper said:

I guess I'm the contrarian here.  I worry about durability a little bit, but I don't hate the way it looks. 

definitely an improvement over the 1s and 2s

[TheGoalNet]

@coopaloop1234 Ultra Sonic pads, to me, has the most innovative new feature of the last 5-6 years. Gloves have a subtle tweak that fix everything that I don’t like about Bauer gloves 

Axis may not have any “first to market” features like Ultra Sonic, but it’s the first completely new line CCM has launched over the last 6 or 7 years? That also is a big deal.

if you follow goalie equipment, they’re both a very big story in different ways

if I don’t like something about the gear on the ice, I share it here or on YouTube 
 

[GoalieNut]

23 hours ago, Telfo said:

definitely an improvement over the 1s and 2s

I laugh every time I see these comments about Bauer and durability.  They're now 3x stronger then before!  New and improved!

[coopaloop1234]

2 hours ago, TheGoalNet said:

@coopaloop1234 Ultra Sonic pads, to me, has the most innovative new feature of the last 5-6 years. Gloves have a subtle tweak that fix everything that I don’t like about Bauer gloves 

Axis may not have any “first to market” features like Ultra Sonic, but it’s the first completely new line CCM has launched over the last 6 or 7 years? That also is a big deal.

I understand what you're saying, but it feels like the marketing behind both lines is a tad extreme.

Especially the axis line. It's great CCM is finally getting with the times, but all the goalie IG guys are salivating over it and it looks like a more modernized premier pad.

Which, really, isn't anything that exciting.

[Pauly35or00]

10 hours ago, TheGoalNet said:

@coopaloop1234 Ultra Sonic pads, to me, has the most innovative new feature of the last 5-6 years. Gloves have a subtle tweak that fix everything that I don’t like about Bauer gloves 

Axis may not have any “first to market” features like Ultra Sonic, but it’s the first completely new line CCM has launched over the last 6 or 7 years? That also is a big deal.

if you follow goalie equipment, they’re both a very big story in different ways

if I don’t like something about the gear on the ice, I share it here or on YouTube 
 

What’s so different and innovative about Ultra Sonic line? Has anyone shared specifics yet? I haven't been on the forums in a while.

[Aquilzz]

23 hours ago, Pauly35or00 said:

What’s so different and innovative about Ultra Sonic line? Has anyone shared specifics yet? I haven't been on the forums in a while.

Not certain about all the changes, but just judging from the leaked pics:

-New one piece knee block (kind of like how the old Vaughns were)

- New strapping system (or maybe options between CRS and TuneFit in custom?)
- Different core/stiffness options

Another assumption is that the blocker board will be thinner and the glove will close much easier.

[Pauly35or00]

Thanks @Aquilzz. They do look interesting. I have a burning desire to know what the notch is all about besides a design decision, maybe just a way to reinforce the binding.

[LordOfTheCrease]

I'm always curious about the differences between the 'PRO' and the 'SR' levels of pads lately.

Like, are the 'PRO' pads up-to-date with the latest and greatest, and the 'SR' are just last years (and models prior) leftovers or do they have the same materials in the core and the jacket and strapping just cheaper and made off-shore?

The whole "materials and engineering are better quality" doesn't exactly give me the info I want or deserve as a consumer if I'm dropping an additional 2k for a full custom if its just a graphic. Just my $0.02 as I'm sure someone has the answers.

[LordOfTheCrease]

Kinda thinking I may become the 'SR' level review guy

[bunnyman666]

On 12/20/2019 at 7:49 AM, GoalieNut said:

I laugh every time I see these comments about Bauer and durability.  They're now 3x stronger then before!  New and improved!

From what I understand, the bar is quite low as far as durability is concerned.

[Mroy31]

On 12/22/2019 at 10:34 AM, bunnyman666 said:

From what I understand, the bar is quite low as far as durability is concerned.

People like to jump on the legit original concerns of the 1S, but easily forget that the pros that used them used fewer sets in the NHL because of the quality of the internals. I think Dubnyk went from something like 4 sets to 2 sets, and Lundqvist they had to basically pry the demo set away from him to give him a new set. 

The original retail issues were legitimate, and the pros have EQM's to endlessly patch anything they need, but I think we're well past the concerns about general durability. 

[bunnyman666]

1 hour ago, Mroy31 said:

People like to jump on the legit original concerns of the 1S, but easily forget that the pros that used them used fewer sets in the NHL because of the quality of the internals. I think Dubnyk went from something like 4 sets to 2 sets, and Lundqvist they had to basically pry the demo set away from him to give him a new set. 

The original retail issues were legitimate, and the pros have EQM's to endlessly patch anything they need, but I think we're well past the concerns about general durability. 

If they even last twice as long, that is a huge jump in durability. And if everything got a lot better, then awesome! I know three people that repair gear and hate working on the originals.

I will never deny the game changing nature of the gear; I even own some in NOS condition.

[Telfo]

10 hours ago, Mroy31 said:

People like to jump on the legit original concerns of the 1S, but easily forget that the pros that used them used fewer sets in the NHL because of the quality of the internals. I think Dubnyk went from something like 4 sets to 2 sets, and Lundqvist they had to basically pry the demo set away from him to give him a new set. 

The original retail issues were legitimate, and the pros have EQM's to endlessly patch anything they need, but I think we're well past the concerns about general durability. 

my 2x set has some durability issues as well. Nothing compared to the 1s type stuff but it is more than fair to say Bauer has more issues than some other brands overall. 

[bunnyman666]

7 hours ago, Telfo said:

my 2x set has some durability issues as well. Nothing compared to the 1s type stuff but it is more than fair to say Bauer has more issues than some other brands overall. 

Would it be fair to say they have performance in spades, but the durability still needs to be worked out? I know a Junior who was downsold the lower end pad because it had the good sliding stuff in the important places and good ol’ Jenpro everywhere else! 

[Telfo]

14 hours ago, bunnyman666 said:

Would it be fair to say they have performance in spades, but the durability still needs to be worked out? I know a Junior who was downsold the lower end pad because it had the good sliding stuff in the important places and good ol’ Jenpro everywhere else! 

Yeah Bauer focuses on performance first and everything else second, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing at all

[bunnyman666]

44 minutes ago, Telfo said:

Yeah Bauer focuses on performance first and everything else second, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing at all

For some people, performance is important above all else. Durable car tyres for racing is an oxymoron. Just doesn’t happen. 

[TheGoalNet]

On 12/21/2019 at 4:55 PM, Aquilzz said:

Not certain about all the changes, but just judging from the leaked pics:

-New one piece knee block (kind of like how the old Vaughns were)

- New strapping system (or maybe options between CRS and TuneFit in custom?)
- Different core/stiffness options

Another assumption is that the blocker board will be thinner and the glove will close much easier.

That’s not the full story on the knee block... 

[TheGoalNet]

On 12/20/2019 at 9:25 AM, coopaloop1234 said:

I understand what you're saying, but it feels like the marketing behind both lines is a tad extreme.

Especially the axis line. It's great CCM is finally getting with the times, but all the goalie IG guys are salivating over it and it looks like a more modernized premier pad.

Which, really, isn't anything that exciting.

Without being inside your head, and thank god im not , I don’t know exactly what you mean by that 

I can say that it’s a challenge at times coming up with new stuff to post and new launches are always to discuss, share, and see what people think

I try not to say anything is the best because I feel it’s too subjective. Not sure if that helps? But trying to share insight on what stuff is done and why 

[Aquilzz]

19 minutes ago, TheGoalNet said:

That’s not the full story on the knee block... 

Oh that's exciting. The small leaks on the models this year have been killing me. Felt like we knew way more about upcoming gear at this point last year.

[ThatCarGuy]

By chance are the knee block and the pad core all one solid piece of foam

[coopaloop1234]

On 12/24/2019 at 10:25 PM, TheGoalNet said:

Without being inside your head, and thank god im not , I don’t know exactly what you mean by that 

I can say that it’s a challenge at times coming up with new stuff to post and new launches are always to discuss, share, and see what people think

I try not to say anything is the best because I feel it’s too subjective. Not sure if that helps? But trying to share insight on what stuff is done and why 

I think it's more the impression that the GGN's and GCN's give off about the new lines that make them seem as a larger version of an advertisement branch of each respective company instead of an actual review focused page.

I both understand why they do it the way they do and why it bugs me as much as it does.

Gear is expensive and acquiring all the newest and greatest before it releases to the public is a bonus that they're able to get. The caveat in that is that all of their impressions/reviews are heavily slanted towards avoiding mentioning anything remotely negative about a pad.

Hopefully that makes sense.

[cwarnar]

I'm with @coopaloop1234 GGN did a McKenney XP1 set but we haven't heard boo about it.  But Axis, Ultra Negasonic Longest Name ever and some Warrior stuff is the greatest gear ever produced...

[cwarnar]

Another good look at the Bauer Sub 3, er Ultra Sonic pads.  Lots of texture, but the top welting really bugs me for some reason

[coopaloop1234]

1 hour ago, cwarnar said:

Another good look at the Bauer Sub 3, er Ultra Sonic pads.  Lots of texture, but the top welting really bugs me for some reason

Because it looks dumb and unnecessary?

[Big2]

18 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said:

Because it looks dumb and unnecessary?

Guys could they be solving an issue at the top of the pad ?

Again, not a fan of Bauer pads but aesthetically I like these .