IPv6Freely Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, stackem30 said: I hate the Rangers, least favorite team in the league... but one of the most easily forgettable? C'mon. They're an Original 6, they play in one of biggest cities in the world, and their goalie's been one of the most recognizable faces of the league since the 2005 lockout. Currently, yes. They’re irrelevant right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 42 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said: Currently, yes. They’re irrelevant right now. Huh? Edit: https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2017/12/05/the-nhls-most-valuable-teams-4/#2909409617c7 Again, huh? How is marketing the most profitable NHL team on the big stage (who is currently in a wild card spot) irrelevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6Freely Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 54 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: Huh? Edit: https://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2017/12/05/the-nhls-most-valuable-teams-4/#2909409617c7 Again, huh? How is marketing the most profitable NHL team on the big stage (who is currently in a wild card spot) irrelevant? Because they aren't very good? It's like sending Ottawa and Colorado to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said: Because they aren't very good? It's like sending Ottawa and Colorado to Sweden. NYR is 7th in the east and 14th league wide. That's definitely a far difference then two bottom feeding teams. If you were saying that only Buffalo was irrelevant, sure, but saying a half decent team (2nd and 15th league wide is only separated by 6 points) that's been good for a long time, in the biggest city, and a huge following as irrelevant is just plain wrong. lol. Shit, who would you choose then? Toronto? A whopping 3 points ahead of the Rangers with an extra game played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6Freely Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 20 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: NYR is 7th in the east and 14th league wide. That's definitely a far difference then two bottom feeding teams. If you were saying that only Buffalo was irrelevant, sure, but saying a half decent team (2nd and 15th league wide is only separated by 6 points) that's been good for a long time, in the biggest city, and a huge following as irrelevant is just plain wrong. lol. Shit, who would you choose then? Toronto? A whopping 3 points ahead of the Rangers with an extra game played? K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 hours ago, bunnyman666 said: I’m surprised @SaveByRichter35 has not thrown down with that comment! LOL Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Honestly I don't even care that much about the game. The NHL ruined the novelty of the Winter Classic when they introduced the Stadium Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 4 hours ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Honestly I don't even care that much about the game. The NHL ruined the novelty of the Winter Classic when they introduced the Stadium Series. Now- if they would have trashed Richter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, bunnyman666 said: Now- if they would have trashed Richter... YOU'D ALL BE DEAD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: YOU'D ALL BE DEAD!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose75 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 hours ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Honestly I don't even care that much about the game. The NHL ruined the novelty of the Winter Classic when they introduced the Stadium Series. When they first announced the "Winter Classic" I assumed it was gonna be like the Olympics and happen every few years or so, hence the name. Boy did i forget who runs the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6Freely Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Once a year I was good with. The Stadium Series stuff made the whole thing ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose75 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 And having the same teams virtually every year ruined it quickly. But hey, maybe the Blackhawks can get their outdoor record back to .500! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 The problem I have with the outdoor games is that the play surface is so disconnected from the fans. The closest seat is still seemingly miles away from the action. When the Blues had their outdoor game, I watched it in the comfort of my home as I did not want to pay $500 to use binoculars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike24 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, bunnyman666 said: The problem I have with the outdoor games is that the play surface is so disconnected from the fans. The closest seat is still seemingly miles away from the action. When the Blues had their outdoor game, I watched it in the comfort of my home as I did not want to pay $500 to use binoculars. Yes this. I don't like watching these games on TV for this very reason. It's like the game is happening on an island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, Mike24 said: Yes this. I don't like watching these games on TV for this very reason. It's like the game is happening on an island. The Winter Classic is made for TV. I’ll watch on tele, but never live, in person. But I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 1:05 AM, Chenner29 said: I can somewhat corroborate this. I remember flipping through pics of one of the factory tours that was put on a couple years ago. I forget if it was of the Lefevre factory or of Protechsport. One of the prominent pieces that was displayed was a mold of Roy’s head with a huge dimple coming out of it, so that no one would be able to make another shell off that mold. This is the Roy plug from the Lefebrve factory. No reason shells could not be pulled off of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwarnar Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 New Optiks for Demko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stackem30 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 20 hours ago, IPv6Freely said: Currently, yes. They’re irrelevant right now. Welllll you know they picked these teams last year, right? And teams are chosen mostly for their TV market appeal (uh, New York, check), their heritage (Original 6, check) and their star power (Lundqvist, check). Teams aren't chosen for the WC based on how well they're doing in the standings right now. Still, the Rangers are currently in a playoff spot. Do you need to be at the top of your division to be 'relevant'? What about teams that make the playoffs in a low seed and then end up winning (Kings 2012, Nashville last spring)... not relevant? There have been teams that were not even in the playoff picture in past Winter Classics... Believe me, it's been several years since I watched a Winter Classic. The NHL ran that one into the ground fast with the extra outdoor games, and their unwillingness to feature teams that weren't the Hawks/Pens/Caps/Bruins/Flyers/Wings. But the Rangers are still a huge market draw, and I don't see what's so objectionable about them being chosen for this one. The NHL is far more likely to gain more viewers with the Rangers than lose viewers because of the Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 @stackem30 I wouldn't bother. IPV6 has no idea what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 City Field? Why not Yankee? Islanders at City makes sense. Isles v Rangers at City even more. Hopefully the goalies and uniforms are all retro themed - because that is still innovative. Maybe players will wear eye black too? A toque hat on a goalie? Oh, the suspense! Rangers v. Knights at Caesar's Palace. That would have been neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, MTH said: City Field? Why not Yankee? Islanders at City makes sense. Isles v Rangers at City even more. Hopefully the goalies and uniforms are all retro themed - because that is still innovative. Maybe players will wear eye black too? A toque hat on a goalie? Oh, the suspense! Rangers v. Knights at Caesar's Palace. That would have been neat. Rangers at Golden Showers on plastic ice outside of Caesar’s Palace- THAT would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoalNet Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, MTH said: City Field? Why not Yankee? Islanders at City makes sense. Isles v Rangers at City even more. Hopefully the goalies and uniforms are all retro themed - because that is still innovative. Maybe players will wear eye black too? A toque hat on a goalie? Oh, the suspense! Rangers v. Knights at Caesar's Palace. That would have been neat. Already did Yankee stadium? I am guessing they like to mix it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I like the winter classic, but maybe it would be best once every 2nd or 4th year, or at the least the classic alone every year and drop the other ones. Some teams can't participate on account that their location wouldn't allow for good ice surface. Too much of a good thing can be just as bad. Bettman clearly only sees with these $$$$$ all the time. Why not have an indoor Winter Classic? That's right. I know it kind of defies the title and concept but, it could be played inside which makes the crowd feel closer (and warmer), have both teams wear classic (brown) retro gear (goalies and forwards) and jerseys/socks of course. No modern DJ music, just the good old organ player. Ushers and vendors and the likes could dress in that time period and fans could also join in costume wise. Food and drinks served in fashion of those days. THAT would make for a cool experience!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6Freely Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, coopaloop1234 said: @stackem30 I wouldn't bother. IPV6 has no idea what he's talking about. You done, cool guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said: You done, cool guy? Nah, not till you're done spewing nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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