Puckstopper Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Those are FIRE! Do it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 @Kirk3190 Please tell me the customizer will be up very soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 So post wedge is almost gone entirely. Sure hope the nylon knee strap is included still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, RichMan said: @Kirk3190 Please tell me the customizer will be up very soon! March 17th! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, coopaloop1234 said: So post wedge is almost gone entirely. Sure hope the nylon knee strap is included still. Post wedge has been removed. We designed a piece that covers the buckle on the outer calf wrap. Keeps the "look" of a Warrior pad too. Nylon strap at the knee is still there 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dero Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Kirk3190 said: Post wedge has been removed. We designed a piece that covers the buckle on the outer calf wrap. Keeps the "look" of a Warrior pad too. Nylon strap at the knee is still there @Kirk3190 What is like the main difference between these and G4’s. I keep seeing how 2020 is gonna be a “HUGE” year for warrior but like why Edited January 29, 2020 by Dero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 @Kirk3190 One more question, will there be an NHL colourway theme senior lineup at retail this time around like there was for the G3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dero said: @Kirk3190 What is like the main difference between these and G4’s. I keep seeing how 2020 is gonna be a “HUGE” year for warrior but like why That, my friend, you'll have to wait a little longer to find out. If you look closely at the gear and think logically about what was changed from G4 to G5 you'll see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, RichMan said: @Kirk3190 One more question, will there be an NHL colourway theme senior lineup at retail this time around like there was for the G3? We've always offered Toronto, Chicago & Detroit. As well as all white, all black and white/black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kirk3190 said: We've always offered Toronto, Chicago & Detroit. As well as all white, all black and white/black. Why would you neglect the most winningest team in the league, my beloved HABS!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, RichMan said: Why would you neglect the most winningest team in the league, my beloved HABS!?! Toronto or Detroit works for that! Just a tid bit of padwrap and you're golden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanR3KC Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Kirk3190 said: That, my friend, you'll have to wait a little longer to find out. If you look closely at the gear and think logically about what was changed from G4 to G5 you'll see it Any change to the materials on the sliding edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, RyanR3KC said: Any change to the materials on the sliding edge? No, we've tested new materials every year and from an R&D perspective there's no factual evidence that one material slides better than another. Anecdotally, some goalies believe i.e. weave slides better than regular but there's no data that proves it. So, we offer weave at custom for those goalies who prefer it but it would be disingenuous of us to put a new material on all stock sliding surfaces and say "It slides faster!" without being able to prove it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckstopper Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Kirk3190 said: Toronto or Detroit works for that! Just a tid bit of padwrap and you're golden! I never really thought it all the way through, but when I do there are only 3 teams you couldn't duplicate with just a single color of padwrap from those templates. Colorado, Winnipeg and Vegas (and you could get close enough to Vegas to survive if you had to). Pretty cool! 21 minutes ago, Kirk3190 said: No, we've tested new materials every year and from an R&D perspective there's no factual evidence that one material slides better than another. Anecdotally, some goalies believe i.e. weave slides better than regular but there's no data that proves it. So, we offer weave at custom for those goalies who prefer it but it would be disingenuous of us to put a new material on all stock sliding surfaces and say "It slides faster!" without being able to prove it. I would think it would be difficult to find an objective test to quantify how much better one material is than another, especially given the constantly changing ice conditions goalies face. Still, I do feel like offering SOME option beyond weave would be beneficial as Warrior is currently the only major company not offering a dedicated material for the sliding surface. When discussing G4's and now G5's with customers I can point to AirSlide (and I'm looking forward to experiencing how that works) but the GT2's definitely lost sales to Gnetik IV and and Eflex 4 based on perception about the materials used on the inner surface. Weave is great at custom, but so many people buy off the rack so that option is lost to them. Having said all of that, I will say that subjectively speaking, with no data to back it up whatsoever, my GT2 set with weave slides better than my EF4 set with SpeedSkin, especially when the ice gets choppy so I do applaud Warrior not just rolling out any old option as a sliding surface without comprehensive review. I feel like CCM may have tested SpeedSkin primarily on good ice (it's stellar there!) and overlooked goalies who don't get fresh ice every 20 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 18 hours ago, Puckstopper said: I never really thought it all the way through, but when I do there are only 3 teams you couldn't duplicate with just a single color of padwrap from those templates. Colorado, Winnipeg and Vegas (and you could get close enough to Vegas to survive if you had to). Pretty cool! I would think it would be difficult to find an objective test to quantify how much better one material is than another, especially given the constantly changing ice conditions goalies face. Still, I do feel like offering SOME option beyond weave would be beneficial as Warrior is currently the only major company not offering a dedicated material for the sliding surface. When discussing G4's and now G5's with customers I can point to AirSlide (and I'm looking forward to experiencing how that works) but the GT2's definitely lost sales to Gnetik IV and and Eflex 4 based on perception about the materials used on the inner surface. Weave is great at custom, but so many people buy off the rack so that option is lost to them. Having said all of that, I will say that subjectively speaking, with no data to back it up whatsoever, my GT2 set with weave slides better than my EF4 set with SpeedSkin, especially when the ice gets choppy so I do applaud Warrior not just rolling out any old option as a sliding surface without comprehensive review. I feel like CCM may have tested SpeedSkin primarily on good ice (it's stellar there!) and overlooked goalies who don't get fresh ice every 20 minutes. A similar conversation took place on GGSU the other day. Here's a snippet from part of it in relation to this conversation. Several factors come into play when evaluating slide. To name a few others: bindingless boot, knee block stability, product weight etc. We recognized early on that others were in a race to slide faster, slide faster, slide faster.. essentially based on the premise of a material. The truth is pretty much every pad on the market slides exceptionally well now on clean ice. This set us on the direction of trying to not only achieve a fast sliding pad, but one that slid consistently fast over the course of a game as the ice starts to deteriorate. A lot of goalies grade "slide-ability" on a fresh sheet of ice right after the Zam gets off. But, the most important time of a game for a goalie is typically in the final minutes when the ice is in really bad shape. This lead us in the direction of AIRslide. A physical design that maintained the great slide-ability you have in warm-ups, at the end of the game as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Typical goalie challenges: At the beginning of the game Near the end of the game 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dero Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 23 hours ago, Puckstopper said: I never really thought it all the way through, but when I do there are only 3 teams you couldn't duplicate with just a single color of padwrap from those templates. Colorado, Winnipeg and Vegas (and you could get close enough to Vegas to survive if you had to). Pretty cool! I would think it would be difficult to find an objective test to quantify how much better one material is than another, especially given the constantly changing ice conditions goalies face. Still, I do feel like offering SOME option beyond weave would be beneficial as Warrior is currently the only major company not offering a dedicated material for the sliding surface. When discussing G4's and now G5's with customers I can point to AirSlide (and I'm looking forward to experiencing how that works) but the GT2's definitely lost sales to Gnetik IV and and Eflex 4 based on perception about the materials used on the inner surface. Weave is great at custom, but so many people buy off the rack so that option is lost to them. Having said all of that, I will say that subjectively speaking, with no data to back it up whatsoever, my GT2 set with weave slides better than my EF4 set with SpeedSkin, especially when the ice gets choppy so I do applaud Warrior not just rolling out any old option as a sliding surface without comprehensive review. I feel like CCM may have tested SpeedSkin primarily on good ice (it's stellar there!) and overlooked goalies who don't get fresh ice every 20 minutes. well there has to be some difference to some extent. i've never had a set with speed skin, but it seems that its split 50/50. some people say they stick to the ice while other say its great. The primo on Brian's optik and gnetik lines is great, but there are only 5 color options, then again some people order their custom Brian's set even without the primo to keep the color theme of their pads. Vaughn offers like something almost identical to primo but have it in a lot more color options. warrior basically just makes indents. like its def mostly just marketing but i mean it works. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Roy's Wink Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Some G5 pics from Instagram... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadlocked1 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Awesome! I wonder how much they weigh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Is that purple weave I see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, ThatCarGuy said: Is that purple weave I see? It's embossed jenpro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dero Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 13 hours ago, Patrick Roy's Wink said: Some G5 pics from Instagram... also its kinda odd they decided to come back with the huge outer roll as most companies are doing the opposite now going smaller and smaller. like that thing is huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk3190 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dero said: also its kinda odd they decided to come back with the huge outer roll as most companies are doing the opposite now going smaller and smaller. like that thing is huge You are correct. We reduced the outer roll height on G4 and have gone the opposite direction on G5. Pretty much every pad in 2020 other than GT2 and G5 has some form of a reduced outer roll height. We're going to prove why that's not a good idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichMan Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 59 minutes ago, Kirk3190 said: You are correct. We reduced the outer roll height on G4 and have gone the opposite direction on G5. Pretty much every pad in 2020 other than GT2 and G5 has some form of a reduced outer roll height. We're going to prove why that's not a good idea! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezon36 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Warrior just posted this picture. It looks like the calf strap Is going through the inner calf wrap. I wonder if this gives it a tighter feel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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