Fullright Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 It is just how it is; smaller guys arent going to be in the Show. The game would have to morph into something else, and I dont know what it would be, before someone like Vachon or Palmateer would get a chance. Heck, Plante wouldnt get a chance. Evolution, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedX Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, Chenner29 said: You're telling me there's a political interest group marketing to NHL coaches and scouts that pushes a big goalie agenda? Now it all makes sense Do you want to know the terrifying truth? Or do you want to see Ovi sock a few dingers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder35 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Y'all are so far behind the curve. I am 5' 7", wear 12" wide pads, a vastly oversized Trapper, slightly, only slightly illegal Blocker, a V6 2200 Pro XL C/A, XL Vaughn Pants but here's the clincher .................. I have a 48 inch chest and I stand up to stop shots! It just ain't fair when playing against you skinny giraffes, you're hooped. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teal Terror Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Can anyone remember the name of the goalie who’s nickname was 6 hole? So short that shots above the head were considered the 6th hole. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravitas Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Teal Terror said: Can anyone remember the name of the goalie who’s nickname was 6 hole? So short that shots above the head were considered the 6th hole. I think this was some NBC or whatever commentators joking about their colleague Darren Pang. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedX Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, netminder said: Your screen shot just galvanized my statement though, its a decades old formula that the fast track to success for a goalie must mean height is auto-elite. When in fact the sub 6'1 and shorter goalies who were at least given a chance are FAAAAAR more successful per capita. I did math for you earlier, i'm glad you ignored it. If the the script was immediatly reversed and 80% of those goalies were 6'1 or shorter on that list, you would NOT, i repeat NOT see 50%, 66%, 75% of the big goalies in the top 5 of every league stats anymore. By the sheer number of tall goalies vs small in the pro's and semi pros you see a split in success at the top, but again, if 60 6'2+ goalies making it pro vs just 10 6'1 and shorter making it pro has never been backed by data that taller is better except lists like that. I showed you real world results and you still ignored. Its all about the dinosaur thinking, and based on that, should the 2 pad stack be a go-to save still too? Not many goals go in when someone does a 2 pad stack so it MUST be used more often right? I admitted you’re right. What else do you need? I get to ignore your data because your argument is committing a fallacy. You’re beating up a strawman, and arguing against yourself. I never said small goalies aren’t effective. I didn’t say they were bad. I never even said “don’t draft them.” I did say, teams are not drafting smaller goalies and are not forecasting to change that any time soon. This is based off recent conversations I have had with goalie coaches and goalie specific scouts at the NHL level. I provided last years draft to provide support and context. So, if you think I’m lying about having these conversations with people, or am lying about what they told me in those conversations we can have that discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, RedX said: I admitted you’re right. What else do you need? I get to ignore your data because your argument is committing a fallacy. You’re beating up a strawman, and arguing against yourself. I never said small goalies aren’t effective. I didn’t say they were bad. I never even said “don’t draft them.” I did say, teams are not drafting smaller goalies and are not forecasting to change that any time soon. This is based off recent conversations I have had with goalie coaches and goalie specific scouts at the NHL level. I provided last years draft to provide support and context. So, if you think I’m lying about having these conversations with people, or am lying about what they told me in those conversations we can have that discussion. This is the part where we ignore netminders replies btw 1 hour ago, Wonder35 said: It just ain't fair when playing against you skinny giraffes, you're hooped. Does it count if I’m 6’0” 138lbs? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 55 minutes ago, ThatCarGuy said: This is the part where we ignore netminders replies btw Does it count if I’m 6’0” 138lbs? Can I Fedex you some cheeseburgers or something 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyGrips13 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ThatCarGuy said: Does it count if I’m 6’0” 138lbs? @ThatCarGuy on his way to the rink 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, Chenner29 said: Can I Fedex you some cheeseburgers or something Please do I already ate two pizzas today and it’s not even 5pm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertnamehere Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 9 hours ago, ThatCarGuy said: They actually bumped price and vasilevskiy up to 6’3” recently. Both were listed at 6’2” only a couple years ago Vasy is listed at 6'4" on EP. Who do we believe?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, insertnamehere said: Vasy is listed at 6'4" on EP. Who do we believe?!?! EP also says I’m 5’9” and that my goalie partner who comes up to my nose is 5’10” lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teal Terror Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 13 hours ago, ZeroGravitas said: I think this was some NBC or whatever commentators joking about their colleague Darren Pang. I thought it was Panger! I couldn’t remember at all! Hahah, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman30 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder35 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I was fortunate to watch Kirk play with my, then, home town Oshawa Generals of the OHL. Even then he was a stylish, smooth goaltender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.YOUNGoalie13 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 3:15 PM, ThatCarGuy said: This is the part where we ignore netminders replies btw Does it count if I’m 6’0” 138lbs? I’m 5’9 135 and I’m super skinny, so does that make you… SUPREMELY skinny? What rank is above super? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, A.YOUNGoalie13 said: I’m 5’9 135 and I’m super skinny, so does that make you… SUPREMELY skinny? What rank is above super? Worst part is I’ve put on about 20lbs over the past couple years and maybe only grown an inch taller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.YOUNGoalie13 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, ThatCarGuy said: Worst part is I’ve put on about 20lbs over the past couple years and maybe only grown an inch taller Hit up Barry Bonds for some roids, worked pretty well for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 10:17 PM, ThatCarGuy said: EP also says I’m 5’9” and that my goalie partner who comes up to my nose is 5’10” lol Seriously man, you need chill. You're freaking people out. I know this is you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 10:48 AM, RedX said: Do you want to know the terrifying truth? Or do you want to see Ovi sock a few dingers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatCarGuy Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Chenner29 said: Seriously man, you need chill. You're freaking people out. I know this is you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_Man Does saying I don’t tan make it worse? Anyways here’s a good shot of axis 2 if there’s people on here without instagram If you look closely at the glove wrist you see he has a premier chest too. Crazy to me how many people are still using one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chenner29 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 10:48 AM, RedX said: Do you want to know the terrifying truth? Or do you want to see Ovi sock a few dingers? Nah, I wanna view the world through my dinosaur eyes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagoal Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) I love this picture. Ullmark loves his straps and looks like he cranks down some tape below his knee pads. Edited February 15, 2022 by seagoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTH Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 4:03 PM, RedX said: I did say, teams are not drafting smaller goalies and are not forecasting to change that any time soon. This is based off recent conversations I have had with goalie coaches and goalie specific scouts at the NHL level. I provided last years draft to provide support and context. My oldest is 6' about 180. He's 15 now. Plays D. Forever and the day growing up everyone said he's gonna be a terror when you can hit. But now? Small defenseman are what is in style. Team USA for the Olympics didn't even have one d man over 6'. My son even is looked down upon because he's big. Small and quick is what everyone wants. So while big ass kids are the pick for goal. They aren't anywhere else on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopaloop1234 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, MTH said: My oldest is 6' about 180. He's 15 now. Plays D. Forever and the day growing up everyone said he's gonna be a terror when you can hit. When do they introduce hitting now? I think by 15 I had been hitting for a few seasons already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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