TitanG Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, HP29 said: Hey folks, I’ve begun the descent down the @bunnyman666-hole and after a few emails with Michel... I’m going for it! I have a few clarifying questions, as there seems to almost be a “secret menu” of features beyond the Protechsport website: - What are all the colours of strapping available? - What are all my cage options? I know he offers a cheater, and I want one, but are there different versions? - What is the difference between black/cream foam? Thanks! I can only answer the last question: from what I recall on others' postings, the black foam is more of a comfortable foam than the cream. I too would like to know how many options for cages there are -- can one order any cage available from OTNY (I think they supply him)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 hour ago, HP29 said: Hey folks, I’ve begun the descent down the @bunnyman666-hole and after a few emails with Michel... I’m going for it! I have a few clarifying questions, as there seems to almost be a “secret menu” of features beyond the Protechsport website: - What are all the colours of strapping available? - What are all my cage options? I know he offers a cheater, and I want one, but are there different versions? - What is the difference between black/cream foam? Thanks! Tan foam is rubatex, black is that nicer, softer foam. I think there may be only two cheater varieties. Strapping is only black and white unless that has changed. Welcome to the hole! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP29 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) On 5/3/2019 at 10:48 PM, bunnyman666 said: Tan foam is rubatex, black is that nicer, softer foam. I think there may be only two cheater varieties. Strapping is only black and white unless that has changed. Welcome to the hole! *poor attempt at humour* Thanks @bunnyman666! I've only used two types of black foam. The really rigid stuff Sportmask uses sometimes (doesn't lose shape, chip away, or alter in density) and then, as you know, the Jofa stuff in the 390. Is Michel's comparable to maybe the Jofa? Also is the EVA less durable than rubatex? You went with a matte white shell, correct? Do you find it shows wear or scuffs any worse than gloss? I'm leaning towards matte, but undecided currently. Finally, are the white straps the ones that are kind of cream coloured? Very old school looking? Edited May 5, 2019 by HP29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoRhinehart Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 7 hours ago, HP29 said: Mmm yeah keep going .... Black foam is eva foam, closed cell so it wont absorb sweat. Apparently people think highly of it, even over the more exotic maltese foams. Once you go black foam, you wont go back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/4/2019 at 5:45 PM, MangoRhinehart said: Black foam is eva foam, closed cell so it wont absorb sweat. Apparently people think highly of it, even over the more exotic maltese foams. Once you go black foam, you wont go back. False. I have the black EVA in my PS. I hate it. I prefer the creme foam in my Pro's Choice leaps and bounds over the EVA. I'd love the PC foam in my PS mask. But yes, EVA compared to Rubatex I'll take the EVA all day ever day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP29 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 28 minutes ago, SaveByRichter35 said: False. I have the black EVA in my PS. I hate it. I prefer the creme foam in my Pro's Choice leaps and bounds over the EVA. I'd love the PC foam in my PS mask. But yes, EVA compared to Rubatex I'll take the EVA all day ever day. Oh snap. So you don’t like Michel’s EVA foam, but you’ll take it over his Rubatex option? Why no love for the black foam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, HP29 said: Oh snap. So you don’t like Michel’s EVA foam, but you’ll take it over his Rubatex option? Why no love for the black foam? Let me rephrase. I hate it when compared to what I have in my PC. Whatever it is that Dom uses in his masks is by far the most comfortable foam I have ever had in a mask. However, yes, the black EVA is definitely better than traditional Rubatex...in my opnion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP29 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, SaveByRichter35 said: Let me rephrase. I hate it when compared to what I have in my PC. Whatever it is that Dom uses in his masks is by far the most comfortable foam I have ever had in a mask. However, yes, the black EVA is definitely better than traditional Rubatex...in my opnion. Ok fair play. I hate to keep asking, but I have no experience with PS... does the EVA compress a lot, and is it less durable? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravitas Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, HP29 said: Ok fair play. I hate to keep asking, but I have no experience with PS... does the EVA compress a lot, and is it less durable? Thanks. I think the black foam does compress a bit compared to the standard, cream colored Rubatex. The black EVA foam retains its plushness over time though, whereas Rubatex stiffens up and becomes rock hard. I just pulled out my Protechsport that was built in 2010, which I haven't used for almost 3 years and the foam feels almost as comfortable as the day I got it, but it does seem a bit compressed. Durability compared to Rubatex? I can't say since I haven't used a mask with Rubatex for almost a decade... I haven't refurbed either my Theodore-mold (2010 build) and Bauer-style (2016 build) and the foam is still going strong. The foam isn't chewed up and it is not loose/falling out of the mask. Very solidly attached. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP29 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, ZeroGravitas said: I think the black foam does compress a bit compared to the standard, cream colored Rubatex. The black EVA foam retains its plushness over time though, whereas Rubatex stiffens up and becomes rock hard. I just pulled out my Protechsport that was built in 2010, which I haven't used for almost 3 years and the foam feels almost as comfortable as the day I got it, but it does seem a bit compressed. Durability compared to Rubatex? I can't say since I haven't used a mask with Rubatex for almost a decade... I haven't refurbed either my Theodore-mold (2010 build) and Bauer-style (2016 build) and the foam is still going strong. The foam isn't chewed up and it is not loose/falling out of the mask. Very solidly attached. This is actually quite helpful too. My Rubatex experience definitely leaves something to be desired in terms of comfort, although it holds its shape well. I’ve also never really had NEW rubatex, but that doesn’t seem to be a factor. @TheGoalNet what did Michel pad your CCM with? I tried searching for pics to see the matte white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 22 hours ago, HP29 said: Ok fair play. I hate to keep asking, but I have no experience with PS... does the EVA compress a lot, and is it less durable? Thanks. I've only been using my PS mask on and off for about 6 months so I cannot comment on the longevity of the foam. I have heard that the EVA doesn't harden over time like Rubatex does, however, it starts flaking/crumbling to pieces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Depends on the model for the cages. He has clones or special types of mask that only have one option, then others like the 00’s 3-earhole Lefevre with several types of cage Black foam is softer than the cream foam. I’d go that route, but the foam does wear down faster. Strapping is either black or white (cream) but he can put it outside or inside the mask for back plate painting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP29 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 On 11/17/2017 at 12:34 AM, daffy said: Got mine last week. Best fitting mask I've ever had! How's that foam been holding up?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daffy Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 5 hours ago, HP29 said: How's that foam been holding up?! Foam has been good. No issues with it for me. Sending mask back for some chin repair. All covered by Michel. His customer service is great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan W Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Hey guys, my wait is is finally over! I got measured for both the 961 or potvin mold. I haven’t seen any protechsports potvins and couldn’t find which one it was in his gallery. Anyone here have one and mind sharing a picture? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoRhinehart Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ryan W said: Hey guys, my wait is is finally over! I got measured for both the 961 or potvin mold. I haven’t seen any protechsports potvins and couldn’t find which one it was in his gallery. Anyone here have one and mind sharing a picture? thanks! Lucky! I am still waiting for mine, should be any day now. When did you order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoRhinehart Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Heres a potvin protech offa facespace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan W Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, MangoRhinehart said: Lucky! I am still waiting for mine, should be any day now. When did you order? I first contacted him in October. Not sure when I was officially put in queue but if it wasn’t then, it wasn’t much later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoRhinehart Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ryan W said: I first contacted him in October. Not sure when I was officially put in queue but if it wasn’t then, it wasn’t much later... Nice, I ordered 1 in November, got an extra bonus and ordered a backup in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan W Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, MangoRhinehart said: Nice, I ordered 1 in November, got an extra bonus and ordered a backup in January. You can’t be far off then! Which molds did you go with? any thoughts on getting triangle vents on a 961 clone? Does that just ruin it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoRhinehart Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ryan W said: You can’t be far off then! Which molds did you go with? any thoughts on getting triangle vents on a 961 clone? Does that just ruin it? I let Michel pick the mold. I think 961 mold with triangle vents looks good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan W Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Sorry guys. One last question before I finalize the order. Anyone have any experience with both the chin cup and sling or any advice. wondering if a sling would keep the helmet as secure or if it’s likely to shift more when you turn your head quickly? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnyman666 Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, Ryan W said: Sorry guys. One last question before I finalize the order. Anyone have any experience with both the chin cup and sling or any advice. wondering if a sling would keep the helmet as secure or if it’s likely to shift more when you turn your head quickly? thanks! I am forever and always a chin cup guy. I need that security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoRhinehart Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Ryan W said: Sorry guys. One last question before I finalize the order. Anyone have any experience with both the chin cup and sling or any advice. wondering if a sling would keep the helmet as secure or if it’s likely to shift more when you turn your head quickly? thanks! I went sling and have been using slings for the past year, I find them more comfy than a chin cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveByRichter35 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I will never wear a chin cup again. Slings for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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